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	<title>Comments on: Mobiles</title>
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	<description>by Patrick Edwards-Daugherty</description>
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		<title>By: orinoco womble</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-5156</link>
		<dc:creator>orinoco womble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m already confused by the world around me.
I find mobiles calming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m already confused by the world around me.<br />
I find mobiles calming.</p>
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		<title>By: aneka</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-4260</link>
		<dc:creator>aneka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Starknight</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>Starknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story is called &lt;b&gt;Lifeline&lt;/b&gt;, and it&#039;s collected in &lt;i&gt;Expanded Universe&lt;/i&gt;. It was also collected in &lt;i&gt;The Worlds of Robert A. Heinlein&lt;/i&gt; in 1966, but I&#039;m pretty sure that one&#039;s out of print. &lt;i&gt;Expanded Universe&lt;/i&gt; is more recent and contains more of his work, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story is called <b>Lifeline</b>, and it&#8217;s collected in <i>Expanded Universe</i>. It was also collected in <i>The Worlds of Robert A. Heinlein</i> in 1966, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that one&#8217;s out of print. <i>Expanded Universe</i> is more recent and contains more of his work, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: ritz</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1985</link>
		<dc:creator>ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to read R.A.H&#039;s &quot;story&quot; but is it even possible to trace the &quot;history of human&quot; by tracing her unique electric impulse back through time?

would it really be her story or &lt;i&gt;&quot;his&quot;&lt;/i&gt;story?

I am really interested in reading R.A.H&#039;s story so I would understand how such electric impulses are purportedly traced and how &quot;unique&quot; they really are. 

&lt;i&gt;Do voice synthesizers/changers use the same electric impulses?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to read R.A.H&#8217;s &#8220;story&#8221; but is it even possible to trace the &#8220;history of human&#8221; by tracing her unique electric impulse back through time?</p>
<p>would it really be her story or <i>&#8220;his&#8221;</i>story?</p>
<p>I am really interested in reading R.A.H&#8217;s story so I would understand how such electric impulses are purportedly traced and how &#8220;unique&#8221; they really are. </p>
<p><i>Do voice synthesizers/changers use the same electric impulses?</i></p>
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		<title>By: ritz</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to confuse yourself, then the next time you look at a mobile, imagine what four dimensional object, if spun through three dimensions, would look like that mobile.

Why would I wanna confuse myself?

Would the light do?

or the computer?

or the wires?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to confuse yourself, then the next time you look at a mobile, imagine what four dimensional object, if spun through three dimensions, would look like that mobile.</p>
<p>Why would I wanna confuse myself?</p>
<p>Would the light do?</p>
<p>or the computer?</p>
<p>or the wires?</p>
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		<title>By: ritz</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and what specific story is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and what specific story is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunnytzu</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunnytzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idea popularized by R.A.Heinlein in the 50&#039;s(ish) with one of his nice-n&#039;-bold stories helps this 4D mobile idea:

A man invented a device that could trace the history of a human (it has more important consequences, but I dare not spoil the story) by tracing her unique electric impulse back through time. This was visually rendered for the reader as looking at that human&#039;s history as a very long and (sometimes) pink temporal worm stretched out from present backward to mother, back to her mother, etc. That&#039;s one long worm!

I make his idea sound a little smaller and more mitochondrial than it really is, but it&#039;s basically correct; see time as making all your actions in the past hour turn you into a worm slinking through time and you will see what is meant easily enough.

More reasons to read R.A.H.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea popularized by R.A.Heinlein in the 50&#8242;s(ish) with one of his nice-n&#8217;-bold stories helps this 4D mobile idea:</p>
<p>A man invented a device that could trace the history of a human (it has more important consequences, but I dare not spoil the story) by tracing her unique electric impulse back through time. This was visually rendered for the reader as looking at that human&#8217;s history as a very long and (sometimes) pink temporal worm stretched out from present backward to mother, back to her mother, etc. That&#8217;s one long worm!</p>
<p>I make his idea sound a little smaller and more mitochondrial than it really is, but it&#8217;s basically correct; see time as making all your actions in the past hour turn you into a worm slinking through time and you will see what is meant easily enough.</p>
<p>More reasons to read R.A.H.!</p>
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		<title>By: Somerled</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Somerled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might find this interesting: http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_E.htm

The idea boils down to using the time dimension we know as a way to represent a fourth spatial dimension that we are not accustomed to.

The mathematical representation of a four (spatial) dimensional object is easy enough, you use four coordinates (w, x, y, z) instead of three (x, y, z). But are these &quot;higher&quot; dimensions meaningful?

It turns out we are probably in a universe of many spatial dimensions plus time, but where we don&#039;t experience most of those dimensions--they are wrapped in on themselves very, very tightly, like looking at a straw that is so small it looks like a line.

Thanks for your comments :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might find this interesting: <a href="http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_E.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_E.htm</a></p>
<p>The idea boils down to using the time dimension we know as a way to represent a fourth spatial dimension that we are not accustomed to.</p>
<p>The mathematical representation of a four (spatial) dimensional object is easy enough, you use four coordinates (w, x, y, z) instead of three (x, y, z). But are these &#8220;higher&#8221; dimensions meaningful?</p>
<p>It turns out we are probably in a universe of many spatial dimensions plus time, but where we don&#8217;t experience most of those dimensions&#8211;they are wrapped in on themselves very, very tightly, like looking at a straw that is so small it looks like a line.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments :)</p>
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		<title>By: mbt</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-1947</link>
		<dc:creator>mbt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But is it possible for a human to percieve four dimensions?
What if it&#039;s just something we made up?
Isn&#039;t whatever we call the fourth dimension supposed to be time?

If that were the case, I guess I could imagine what it would look like, but I&#039;m not sure how worthwhile it would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is it possible for a human to percieve four dimensions?<br />
What if it&#8217;s just something we made up?<br />
Isn&#8217;t whatever we call the fourth dimension supposed to be time?</p>
<p>If that were the case, I guess I could imagine what it would look like, but I&#8217;m not sure how worthwhile it would be.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://secretvespers.com/2006/12/04/mobiles/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brain just melted a little</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brain just melted a little</p>
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